This is the fourth and final installment in my series that has made different cases for what the Seahawks organization should do in this off-season that many view as one that could see dramatic changes to this team we love. I’ve made my case for Pete Carroll, I made a strong case for Russell Wilson, and I think I made a very nuanced case in favor of GM John Schneider.
Here is my argument for bringing them all back in 2022.
Let’s bring them all back.
Pete is a good football coach, one of the best culture builders in professional sports, and despite the down year, these Seahawk players have continued to play hard for him. Many of his former players such as Marshawn Lynch, Cliff Avril, and Matt Hasselbeck have all voiced their support of him returning. My hunch is that they know more about football and the dealings of Pete Carroll than any hardcore keyboard jockey fan does, and for all he has done for this club, one would think he deserves at least one mulligan season.
Russell Wilson, despite a down year, is still regarded as a top quarterback in this league by those who make a lot of money running NFL front offices. If he is placed on the trade market this off-season, it is expected that there will be a pretty significant bidding war for his services. I ask you to pump your breaks on salivating about the first round picks Seattle could get for him, and the unproven talent they could draft to fill the roster. If there is a bidding war for Russ, it means he’s still really, really good, and teams believe that he will stay good for a very long time. Let’s bring him back, and just draft better with the picks we have.
John Schneider is viewed as a top general manager in this league. Both Michael Silver and Peter King have said so much in recent days and weeks. Both writers aren’t hack jobs looking to generate click bait material, either. They have long standing connections through out the league, and they hear that Schneider is highly regarded. If anything, Schneider should stay and be granted full autonomy from what is likely an overbearing input from Pete Carroll with is VP status. Jody Allen should take the VP duties away from Pete and give them to John. That, in my opinion, would solve a lot of issues with this club.
At the end of the day, for all this civil war on Seahawks Twitter as to who should go and how should stay with this power trio in Seattle, as far as I can tell, all three of these dudes are pretty good at their jobs, so why not just run it all back with them in 2022?
In my very humble opinion, Jody Allen should hold a lengthy sit down meeting with Pete, Russ, and John in short order after this Arizona game. Don’t even waste a minute waiting. Just get all three figureheads in the same room and lay it out for each of them in front of the other, just like my hard nosed Korean War veteran dad would have done.
Jody should point to Pete first and say “I’ve been watching this bull hockey for a few years now after my brother has passed, and you have no idea how to build an offensive line, and your front office impulses aren’t much better than a preschoolers.. I could make a preschooler vice president of this club and pay ’em in apple slices to do the same job you’ve done, and I would likely get the same results.. I pay you a fortune in to be the coach and vice president, but I am taking the VP title away and giving it to John.. I just want you to coach and I am going to pay you handsomely to do it.. don’t do anything else.. just coach, coach.”
She should then turn to Russ and say “If you want your legacy goals to happen, we are going to build up that offensive line and commit to a run game that your can play action off of all day long and you are going lead the NFL in efficiency again, and lead us back into the playoffs.. what you are going to do is tell your agent to stop leaking all the bull crap to Colin Cowherd about how we don’t do enough for you.. we gave you Jimmy Graham, Duane Brown, Percy Harvin, and DK Metcalf.. now that Pete’s staying out of the front office, John’s going to go get you a smashingly good offensive line, finally.. trust that process.”
Final, she must turn to John and say “with my beloved brother’s fortune, you go get the best offensive linemen available on the market and bring them in here.. do not go cheap.. do not give us quantity, I want quality.. and while your at it, go get an interior pass rusher and one more rusher on the edge.. do not go cheap.. and bring Quandre Diggs back and DJ Reed.. and please shave.”
Jody Allen needs to square this situation up. It’s that simple.
Don’t let Pete and John mess around with trading Russ and bringing in Baker Mayfield and thinking somehow the team will be better, because it likely won’t be.
Don’t replace Pete with some thirty three year old analytic dork who’s going to go for it more on fourth downs because that’s what Russ wants. Russ’s impulses should not rule anything. This is the dude who wanted to team to bring in Antonio Brown, and thinks sleeping for only four hours a night is a great idea to give him a competitive edge. All of Russ’s needs and wants aren’t likely what’s best for this team, and I think even his most ardent supporters should agree with that.
What this team needs more than anything else is a reasoned mind to steer the ship in the right way, and I think part of that is managing both Pete and Russ.
Pete needs to be managed because his eternal optimism on players leads to a very natural hubris, and that’s a huge problem when it comes to front office decisions. I know there’s people that want to blame John there, but because of Pete’s veto power over John, we can’t be certain much if any of it actually lands on John. We know Pete has final say though. Just take that final say away from him, and pay him the same. Simple solution.
I love Russ. He’s been my favorite Seahawk since Cortez Kennedy, and I strongly support not trading him. But Russ needs to check his ego at the door some, and come to terms that the best offensive strategy for him is one that features a strong enough run game that defenses have to account for, and he throws off of in play action. This is how is led the nation in efficiency play in college at Wisconsin, and this is how he’s put up all the pretty efficiency stats in the pros that everyone loves to point to and say he’s an eventual Hall Of Famer. Give him a strong ground game with a physical offensive line and this dude is going to quarterback for a high level in this league for a long time. Give him a little up tempo here and there, give him more motion stuff, but build it all off of the run. That’s the only offense he should be clamoring for.
Finally, let’s let John cook without Pete’s influence in the front office side of the organization first before judging if he’s the guy at fault. He’s never been offered that opportunity. We know he has a sharp eye for picking quarterbacks, and legend has it that in 2011, he went on a hard campaign to bring in Doug Baldwin as an un-drafted free agent, and wrote letters to Doug to convince him to sign, even though the team was fairly stacked at receiver and Doug was reluctant. This is what I think a good GM does, they keep going after hidden gems. People want to knock John for the first round misses like LJ Collier and Germaine Ifedi, and that’s fine, but then they should give him mad props for unearthing Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse, Poona Ford, and Jake Curhan as un-drafted starter talents. Letting John finally cook by himself makes sense. This should happen.
This is the reasonable path for running all three back. This is what should be considered before blowing it all up.
If Pete won’t relinquish his front office power to John, and/or Russ won’t see that light that his unique talents require him to be in a very specific style of offense that doesn’t involve peppering the ball all over the place instead of establishing the run, then decide to act differently, if need be.
But have this meeting first. Try to make this scenario happen first.
If they can’t all agree to come to these places, that’s fine. Then move on and make the necessary changes
It would be weirdly ironic that Seattle’s offensive line is finally good with Derek Carr under center, and/or they hit more with their higher draft picks suddenly with Dan Quinn as their head coach, but weird ironic shit happens in life.
But let’s try it first with Pete, and Russ, and John, if we can.. even if that’s a lot of ifs.
Also, Book of Bobo Fett is a cool watch. Don’t let anyone else tell you, otherwise.
Enjoy watching this last game of the 2021 Seattle Seahawks, however it unfolds. With big changes anticipated by some in a murky 2022 off-season forecast, let’s soak in these players one last time.
They are playing this game for us, to give us the joy of watching them upset the playoff bound Cardinals and spoil their seeding, and to give us some positive thoughts heading into next season. I’m there for their efforts, however slim their chances are.
With Al Woods, Ryan Neal, and Alton Robinson all out on the Covid list, I’m personally not super hopeful Seattle will slow down a Kyler Murray led offense (determined to win their division and host a playoff game). I think it’s most likely that Russell Wilson will be forced into a shootout and I don’t love his chances of winning that with the way the Cardinals send pressure and Chandler Jones liked matched up against rookie right tackle Jake Curhan (who I actually like a lot for the Seahawks right now).
As much as I want to have these Seahawks win, I think it would be a cardinal sin for me to predict that they will. As much as I want to, I just don’t see it in the cards for them.
What I do see is me sitting on the couch rooting these fellas on for one last game. For as hard as it has been for me to stomach a lot of the losses this year (those recent ones against the Bears and Rams were especially tough), I’m ready to watch what I see likely as a losing effort this Sunday.
For me, I want to see who has the fight for 2022.
I expect Quandre Diggs and DJ Reed to give it good fights. Both are scrappy dudes, anyways, and both are looking for be free agent paydays.
I want to see Jake Curhan not back down from a fight against Chandler Jones and company. I want to see him continue to open up huge holes for Rashaad Penny to run through and to show GM John Schneider that maybe they got a solid starter type there at right tackle for the future.
If Bobby Wagner isn’t a healthy go, I want Cody Barton to play a great game and give me hope that he is able to finally look like a starter going into his final year of his rookie contract next year (especially if Seattle moves off of Wagner’s contract).
I want Dee Eskridge to have an explosive play-making game and look like the player worthy of being their high pick last year in the draft.
I want to see DJ Metcalf give a beastly effort against the Cardinal DBs.
I want to see Rashaad Penny continue to play great and play up to his lofty draft status to close out the year.
I want Darrell Taylor to make Kyler Murray’s game a difficult one by constantly getting pressure on him, and making it look more and more like he’s a building block piece for Seattle’s pass rush next season.
Finally, I want to see Russell Wilson come out of gates fiery, and playing with passion to close out this difficult season for him. Who knows how things will shake out between him and the team this off-season. I’ve let my thoughts be known on multiple occasions on this blog that I want him back, but I can’t write with any certainty that will happen.
What I can write with certainty is that I’ve noticed over the past month, that he has started out these games with a very un-energized vibe more times than not. I noticed it against the Rams, the Bears, and at the start of this last one against the Lions. No energy in and out of the huddle. No enthusiastic hand clapping to get his troops fired up. No usual “let’s go take on the world” juice from this plucky passer. Just a somber air about him, sans any usual Russ-like enthuiasm.
We can all speculate why that might be. I won’t. I will just say that it will be a huge cardinal sin for him to start out that way in this finale in Arizona.
He owes it to the fans to put forth a signature effort. He’s owes it to his teammates to have them fired up to play spoilers. Mostly, he owes it to himself.
If this is to be his last game in Seattle, he owes himself the legacy of outplaying the upstart quarterback in the division looking to take over the mantle as the best passer in the NFC West. He owes himself the history of this ending this season that sort of way, and to prove to those on Seahawks Twitter who believe he is on the downward side of his career that he’s still very much the man.
If he is to remain the starting quarterback of the Seattle Seahawks in 2022, then he owes it to himself to end this season on a high note, and he especially owes it to the team and fans to put positive vibes into the off-season that will some decent free agent spending on the offensive and defensive lines, he and the team will be back with a vengeance next year to take back the division on a softer fourth place schedule.
This is what I most want to see in this last game. I want to see Russ coming out of the gates playing with his hair on fire, determined to beat Murray and stick it to AZ.
If this happens, maybe the Seahawks do sneak this one out.
The 2021 NFL season is almost at its finish, and the Seattle Seahawks will have it’s first losing season under Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson. There is ample belief that there will be some changes with this team in 2022. Some believe that the quarterback might be gone. Other believe that it could/should be the coaches. There’s a fair amount who blame general manager John Schneider for the issues that ail this team, and want to see him riding out of town.
We don’t know what will ultimately happen. What we do know is that is has been reported that team owner Jody Allen isn’t happy with how things have been playing out over recent years, and doesn’t consider this losing season a one off.
We also know that Russ has expressed his unhappiness with the direction of the team and put together a list of four teams that he would be willing to be traded to last Spring after the team came off of a 12-4 season. There is wide spread belief around league circles that he and his agent are preparing to take things much farther this off-season.
Personally, I think it’s now fair to say something’s likely to give in a few short weeks. I’ve made a strong argument for keeping Pete Carroll, and I made a very strong pitch to keep Russell Wilson. This is my argument in favor of John Schneider to remain as commander and chief of the front office for the 2022 Seattle Seahawks.
A very interesting article broke the other week on CBS Sports written by Jason La Confora. The title of the piece revealed that Russell Wilson has little to no intention to sign another contract with Seattle once his third contract ends in 2023. That reveal wasn’t new news for me, as I’ve heard it mentioned before on a Mike Florio podcast.
For me, La Confora’s article got much more interesting when he revealed that there is a significant disconnect between those in the front office and Pete Carroll in seeing that the team needs a roster rebuild to compete with the other younger and more talented teams in the NFC West. That caught my eye significantly more that the usual unhappy Russ stuff did.
Apparently, there are those who see the fact the Russ remains the best chip to use in getting draft picks and players to start the needed process of this rebuild. Carroll, apparently, wants none of it, and said so as much in a press conference last week. It should be worth noting that it appears La Confora has a source within the Seahawks and has broke stories in the past before others. My hunch is that source is John Schneider.
Here is what I believe is truly going on inside the Seattle Seahawks organization. I believe John was told when Russ signed his last deal that he wouldn’t sign another one in Seattle, and there was some pressure from Russ’s agent to get this team into a more win now mode with him.
Things obviously didn’t go well with the moves to jump start the team, and Russ got quite bent by it all. My guess is that he really didn’t like seeing his team trade two first round picks and a third rounder and a starting safety for a box safety out of New York who doesn’t cover very well. My hunch is that Russ would have preferred those resources put into the offensive line in front of him.
Oddly, my Spidey-Sense feels that John Schneider probably would agree with Russ on that. I believe the Adams trade had Pete Carroll’s finger print demands all over it. John can disagree with Pete all he wants to, but at the end of the work day, Pete is VP of the team, and John works for Pete. That’s the pickle of this whole situation.
Now, as all these desperate attempts to kick start this team (Pete’s defense) have failed, the check is due, and big decisions need to be made by Jody Allen as to what to do next. Some feel like she won’t do anything. I suspect the opposite.
Recently, she’s shown us a willingness to act swiftly as owner of the Portland Trailblazers by firing their GM when an investigation showed ample workplace misconduct by said former GM. Although the situation with her Seahawks is very different, the sense of dysfunction feels ample enough to draw some action out of her. We shall see shortly.
Through this all, if I am to be perfectly honest, if it is true that John Schneider sees the desperate need for a rebuild, I see why. I see it as plain as day. I can see Jody Allen seeing it similarly.
If we were to take a deep look at all the rosters in the NFC West, we would see younger, deeper, and more talented rosters in San Francisco, Arizona, and Los Angeles than what is in Seattle, and the marginal of separation is not close. This is what Schneider is likely seeing.
Now I am sure that many will say that Schneider is responsible for this situation, but I think the fact that Pete Carroll has more power than Schneider muddies that considerably. The truth is that it is impossible to know all of which draft picks were John’s guys and which picks were the ones that Pete was insisting on.
Here’s a few players over the years that I think we can all say are John Schneider dudes.
Aaron Rodgers is a John Schneider guy. In 2005, while working for the Packers’ front office. Rodgers was the player John Schneider had rated as his top player on his draft board, and he pounded the table hard for him when the team already had Brett Farve well in his prime. Even though Rodgers put up some pretty passing numbers at Cal, the league viewed him as not big enough, not athletic enough, and not in possession of a live enough of an arm. When he fell to the 24th pick, John screamed at GM Ted Thompson to take him, and they did. The rest is pretty good history for the Packers.
Russell Wilson is a John Schneider guy. In the 2012 draft, John Schneider was the only NFL GM that had a first round grade on Russ. He badly wanted to take him in the second round, but Pete Carroll wanted Bobby Wagner more, and he overruled John’s wishes. Legend has it that John was sweating bullets at the way to the 75th pick before they were able to draft him. Legend also has it that Pete actually preferred Kirk Cousins more than Russ, but was willing to throw John a bone with the 75th pick when Russ and Kirk were still there. The rest is history, and I think it’s safe to say that John’s preferred quarterback out of the 2012 class turned out better than Pete’s.
Patrick Mahomes is a John Schneider guy. In 2017, rumors surfaced that days before the draft that Seattle really liked Mahomes, and would be tempted to take him if he fell to their pick. It created a stir among Seahawk fans. I think those rumors led to the Chiefs jumping up to get him with he 10th pick. Mahomes was viewed as a raw athletic passer with a strong arm who would need seasoning in the league before being ready, and he was taken nine picks after Mitchell Trubisky.
Josh Allen is a John Schneider guy. It is rumored that in 2018, Schneider had discussions with Cleveland about trading Russ for the top overall pick to take Josh Allen, but Cleveland turned the offer down to take Baker Mayfield instead (ouch). John was at Allen’s pro day workout and was captured on camera gawking at his throws. Like Mahomes, Allen was thought to be an athletic big armed cat who was really raw, and would need time to develop. That’s why the Browns took Mayfield tops, and the Jets took Sam Darnold after, and the Cardinals took Josh Rosen right before the Bills finally took Allen at 12 overall. Thus far, seems like Schneider’s guy proved the best quarterback out of that class, and it’s not even close.
What do all of these quarterbacks who are John Schneider guys have in common? Every single one of them have Hall of Fame trajectories, and each were passed over in their draft classes by quarterbacks not nearly as good, and John Schneider was deeply infatuated with their potentials.
Simply put, when it comes to judging quarterback talent, Seattle Seahawk GM John Schneider knows that side of NFL business exceptionally well. Now, I don’t know about you all, but for me, I want that kinda guy running the front office ship of my team, period.
Further more, I believe, if this Jason La Confora report is accurate, that Russell Wilson has little intentions of signing another contract with Seattle, and whether or not they make a coaching change won’t effect his position, one can easily argue that it is vital for Jody Allen to lean into John Schneider moving forward now more than ever.
Whether they chose to hang onto Russ a bit longer or trade him now to start the rebuild, having John around makes sense. It just does.
If there’s some bad blood between John and Russ’s agent, and Jody still wants to hang onto Russ a bit more, so what? Smooth it out. Sit down, have a few beers, and watch Ted Lasso together. Josh about Josh Allen together.
Still, aside from all this Russ stuff, there is a deeper lingering feeling I have about the long term health of this club that I can not shake off. It’s the feeling much like that one you carry around with you that eventually forces you to call the nurse-line to see if you need to see a doctor.
Who knows how much longer Jody Allen intends to hang onto this club. There’s a belief she is looking to eventually sell to fulfill the will of her late brother, but now is not nearly the time. In that belief, there was a report a year or so go, that she viewed that the health of the club was in a good place with its leadership, and its star quarterback, and she wanted it maintained that way in order to get max value as an eventual seller.
If she is unhappy with the situation now, and if she and her advisors are seeing the overall talent gap between her team and the rest of the division widening further and further, like perhaps John is, then there’s gotta be some pretty frank discussions being had with all parties very shortly.
I’ve seen strong arguments out there that are emphatic that this team move on from both Pete and John in favor of keeping Russell Wilson and “trying to make it work out with him” with a different coach and GM with a fresh perspective. I think those arguments are laid out pretty well, and I can be extremely tempted to go along with them.
But if I am to be ruled by my own logic, and not my emotional attachment to Russ as a Seattle Seahawk, I see a roster with a lot of holes on the offensive and defensive lines, no cornerbacks beyond Tre Brown on any contracts for 2022, and I see questions at a lot of other positions, as well, and I have a very unnerving concern. I’m not sure that keeping Russ and throwing a bunch of money at veterans in free agency this Spring is the best laid plan, to be honest.
This rings louder in my ears especially if I pair it all with a potential unwillingness from Russ to commit to being here long term even with a coaching change.
As I weigh all of this, if I am de facto the team owner eventually looking to sell, I’m might be leaning towards the feelings that now is the time to act decisively towards a major rebuild. That might be the right call, in my mind.
If now is the time to max out all you can get for Russ, I think I can be persuaded to rip that band-aid off with John tasked to eventually find the next franchise quarterback, and to get the long term health of this club right so that I can squeeze as much of Jeff Bezo’s billions out of his grips that I possibly can further down the road. After all, in the game of making billions, rarely is the short term success looked at. It’s almost always the long game that matters most.
And I will be honest in this, I don’t want to trade Russell Wilson as much as the next fan. I’ve shared my beliefs on this blog that align with others that you should try giving it a go with him with another coach, if need be. Even if he chooses not to sign another contract, the club can franchise tag him for a few years to buy more time to find his replacement, and maybe with a new coach, he moves off of his idea of eventually leaving, if that La Confora report is accurate.
But I also feel, intuitively, that it is very smart for Jody Allen to retain John Schneider as the GM of this team. My intuitions are that between Pete, John, and Russ, the truest adult in the room between this power trio is most likely John.
He’s the one who is most likely looking at the long term landscape of the league and health of this team. Not a 70 year old head coach who wants to lean into short term veteran plug in fixes like Benson Mayowa and Carlos Dunlap instead of committing to playing younger talents more, and certainly not a legacy obsessed 33 year old QB who has had one foot out the door for a couple seasons now.
In relationships with those we love, the truth is often the very thing we least want to hear when all is not well. I have known, from personal experiences in my life, that you can share amazing chemistries with people that lead you to believe that they are who you are meant to be with, and over time, other things reveal themselves and prove, long term, that’s not the right match for you. It can be painful when faced with that, and it’s very easy to want to brush it off and pretend it’s not there.
It’s easy to be in love with Russell Wilson. I think that is also very true with Pete Carroll. Each are not perfect at their crafts, but they are both extremely lovable dudes, and they are good enough at what they do where one wants to think that it is best to keep it going with them more. It’s an easy conclusion to land on.
The harder place to get to is acknowledging that the foundation underneath Pete and Russ is not likely a solid one, and there are extreme liability concerns for this organization, if that foundation is not addressed. Personally, I don’t think the foundation of this club is very sturdy right now.
I see an older head coach who isn’t nearly as into the “draft and develop” as he was ten years ago and because he has power over the GM, he has the ability to squander draft picks for plug and play veterans that other teams no longer want. That’s a shame.
I also see a quarterback who sees himself on the same par as Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady, and the truth is that he isn’t, but he won’t see it differently, and because of that, he will refuse work function on the play field within his own limitations, and I think that’s a problem. Time and time again, we see him chase after big plays instead of tossing to the easy short stuff available, and then run circles into sacks. Then his agent feels the need to drop narratives to Colin Cowherd that Pete Carroll is holding him back, and John Schneider hasn’t given him a better offensive line. Wash, rinse, and repeat.
I love Russ as much as any Seahawk fan, but I think that he is so blinded by his legacy goals that he can’t see a decent thing in front of him, and I suspect if he goes elsewhere, that other team will realize the same thing Seattle does. He needs to be in a run centered offense to be at his best. I think it’s also true that, while he might not like that reality in Alaska South, he might be more wiling to accept it in New York City with all the glamor and attention that comes with being the Giants quarterback.
These are the cold, hard, honest truths that I think are all, quite possibly, very likely. It’s probably not the most pleasant truths for many Seahawk fans to read.
I think a strong argument why Jody Allen needs to lean into John Schneider is that he has an undeniable eye for quarterback talent, and that is huge for finding the next great one for Seattle, if and when Russ leaves.
But I think maybe even a stronger argument for John is that he might be the one figurehead in this organization who is looking at, and is championing for, the longer term health of this club.
I think if John is the one who is feeling the biggest need for a rebuild, it’s wise to look at that. He’s the one who is signed through 2027. He’s the one who is studying this roster, and the players coming out of college, and what is on the horizon in free agency, and the trade markets.
Long time NFL journalist Michael Silver has recently (and repeatedly over the years) described John Schneider as one of the most respected, and one of the sharpest front office minds in the league, on a Colin Cowherd podcast. A cynical Seahawk fan could say that this is lazy reporting by Silver and they would point to recent drafts and fee agent moves, but I’d push back on that. Again, we don’t know which of those moves were done out of Pete’s insistence, and which were done out of John’s beliefs.
What we do know this that Silver is a deeply connected NFL writer and has been for years. What he reports are the thoughts and feelings he hears from sources throughout the league. He hears that people believe highly in John. That might not be nearly the same as he hears about Pete, or maybe even Russ, possibly.
If I am Jody Allen, I’m gathering my top advisors and we’re having good long discussions with John Schneider these days. I’m listening to his words. I’m asking all the tough questions as to why we traded for Adams and such, and I am looking for his honest answers.
If I trust those responses, I’m trusting John Schneider. I’m moving forward with him to get this Seahawk ship sailing right. Russ and Pete can stay, or they can go, but I’m putting my stock in John. I will ride it out with him.
Yesterday’s game against the pitiful Detroit Lions was the game for you. Russell Wilson finally looked like vintage Russ, Rashaad Penny looked like vintage Shaun Alexander, and DK Metcalf looked happy (finally).
True, the defense didn’t dominate an inferior opponent like many of us would have enjoyed to see. They surrendered yards, and points, and they failed to generate a sack, but they managed to snag three interceptions which lead to Seahawk points, and that was fun.
Who knows what is in store for this Seahawks team once this season meets it’s conclusion next week. Reports are starting to swirl from Adam Schefter that it is a league wide belief that Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll will not continue their working relationship together in 2022. There is also some chatter from Jason La Confora that John Schneider and Pete Carroll are not seeing eye to eye on this roster needing an overhaul (John apparently wants a rebuild and Pete doesn’t).
We cannot know what will come out of all of this, but I suspect that Jody Allen is taking a very measured look at the bigger picture, and she is preparing to act in the best spirit of her brother, Paul. I suspect there could be some big changes brewing shortly. Paul Allen was never shy about acting swiftly whenever he felt it was needed, and I don’t anticipate Jody will be any different, if she feels all is not well.
With that in mind, I will say that if this was the last Seattle home game coached by Pete Carroll, the Seattle Seahawks dominated by playing it almost perfect Pete Ball, especially on offense. This was so fitting that I almost wonder if Hollywood had scripted this game.
The Seahawks ran for a pornographic about of 265 yards on the ground and two touchdowns. That opened up the opportunity for play action to function, and, oh, guess what? Russell Wilson is still really, really good at play action, as he hit on 20 of his 29 passes for 236 yards and four touchdown passes and zero INTs.
For as great as it was to see Penny run like an All Pro, it was better for me to see Russ throw like this. It was also bittersweet.
I’m not going to pretend to know everything that is going on inside Russ’s head, but I feel very confident in saying that I believe that he believes that Pete Carroll is holding him back, and if Pete is going to remain in Seattle, then Russ feels he needs to be somewhere else in 2022. Personally, I think this is misguided (if true), and I wish Russ had someone in his corner telling him that.
I think Pete Ball fits Russ like a glove and this game showed us why. If Russ is in an offense that is dedicated to the run, Russell Wilson is absolutely one of the very best quarterbacks in this league. Having a run game allows him to take advantage of what he does on an elite level, which is play action, throwing on the run, throwing intermediate to deep down field, and doing it all by being efficient with the football.
This, in my opinion, is what Russell Wilson best gives any offense. Like, this is what a solid football coach would do with him. In legal terms, this is the conclusion a reasonable mind would make.
But if you put him in a system that is throw first, that doesn’t stress the importance of the run enough, defenses know how to get after him, and he is a much different quarterback (which isn’t very good). We saw that a lot this year, and the second half of last year when Seattle continued to favor the passing numbers over the run (and Schotty was driving Pete Carroll nuts with it all).
Russ needs to be in an offense that features the run. It’s that simple.
Furthermore, if he is dealt this off-season, I believe the team that acquires him will eventually reach that conclusion with him. The New York Giants might try an up tempo, Andy Reid style offense with him, but I suspect that in two years further down the road, they will run an offense with Russ that would make Pete Carroll proud.
Ditto if Seattle moves on from Pete, and keeps Russ with a new coach. I think it would take Doug Pederson one season with Russ to see what he needs to do the following year, if the plan in 2022 is to let Russ cook.
I wish that Russ would see all of this, but I don’t think he wants to, and I don’t think anyone around him will tell him that. I think that he surrounds himself only by those who will tell him everything that he wants to hear, and mainly that is Pete is holding him back. I think that’s unfortunate for many parties.
As for Pete, I wouldn’t hold my breath his future is certain in Seattle in all of this, either. If Jody Allen does believe this team needs a rebuild, and Pete doesn’t see it that way, I can see this being Pete’s last home game, as well. We will see soon enough.
What I do know is that this game was vintage Pete Carroll football, and even if it was against an inferior team, that was fun to watch. The Seattle Seahawks dominated at the line of scrimmage with their run game, and they took the run away on defense. They took the ball away, and they scored a lot of points off of those turnovers. This is all Pete’s core philosophy as a coach, and say what you want to about how he manages times outs, I think that philosophy is a pretty sound one, even in today’s analytic inspired game.
If Pete Carroll is afforded the opportunity to stay, I think every effort needs to go into the off-season to return back to this style of play. Get more Jake Curhans opening up holes for running backs, and less Cedrick Ogbuehi reclamation projects. Go get a tough SOB center like Max Unger was, and an interior pass rusher to be a disrupting force like Michael Bennett was.
If Russell Wilson must go, go get a quarterback who would be happy and capable being a quality game manager in a system that has been proven time and time again. Let him rack up the efficient numbers and enjoy winning football. I’m sure Derek Carr would love to see himself routinely in the post season after years of missing the opportunity with the Raiders.
If Pete must go, and Russ stays, then someone needs to tell Russ that the run game is his very best friend, and is going to preserve his playing career so that he can achieve those lofty legacy goals. Otherwise, whoever that next head coach is will be dealing with all the same media leaked nonsense from Russ’s agent to Colin Cowherd as Pete has been dealt (“It’s never Russ’s fault, it’s always the coach and the GM, yada, yada, yada, yada.. blah, blah, blah.”).
Russ is a good quarterback who can be great with a run game, and Pete Carroll is a good coach who can be great for Russ. That’s what I see coming out of this one. Prove me wrong. I seriously doubt you will.
That’s the fitting irony that I see, and where this all goes next is anyone’s guess.
I just know this. I enjoyed watching this game. If this was to be the final home game for Pete or Russ, or both, it was Hollywood fitting. Which was nice.
We got two more Seahawk football games to watch over the next two weeks. Now, we separate the goats from the sheep as to who the true Twelves are and who are the bandwagon jumping off hipsters that are going to start becoming LA Charger fans because something called analytics means more to them than all the blood and guts grid iron stuff morons like myself get into.
Alright, I know this match up against the pitiful Lions team isn’t going to light any spark under many bottoms. So I am here to offer a guide of things to root for in this game that “could be Russ’s last home game” in Seahawks blue.
Here we go.
If you want Russ out of Seattle and traded to the Giants for their two top ten first round picks and Saquon Barkley and Daniel Jones, root for Russ to have a great game to increase trade value. Pull your head out of your jaded butt for one hateful second and just root for the guy.
If you want Pete Carroll gone but Russ to stay, root for Russ to play great, but Pete’s defense to suck turds and lose the game against this horrendous Detroit team because of it so that it will make Jody Allen’s decision at the end of the season an easy one.
If you want both Pete and Russ gone, the same rooting interest mentioned above applies here, as well, most likely.
If you don’t want Rashaad Penny to be re-signed in the off-season to a big second contract, root for his injury. I know that’s gross, but football is a brutal reality for all involved.
If you want Penny back, root for him to run for 300 yards like he routinely did in college.
If chaos is the thing you are rooting for now because you are a sick bastard, root for Pete Carroll to put in Stone Forsythe to play left tackle instead of Duane Brown and watch Russell Wilson spin himself into ten sacks during the game because of all the ghost pressure he feels.
If you want to see the team move on from Bobby Wagner’s contract to sign a pro bowl center this Spring, just watch him continue to do what he’s been doing all season by making fourteen tackles ten yards down field and not being super impactful at the line of scrimmage.
If you want Wagz back, you’re not being a smart salary-cap-ologist, and you need to refer to the Over The Cap website so that you can become a more neurotic know-it-all Seahawks fan like ones seen all over Twitter.
If you want to see Seattle make major improvements to the pass rush, don’t root for sacks to happen against whoever plays quarterback for the Lions.
If you want to root for another snow game, pray to God that Mother Nature will hold off the rain projected to come in on Sunday. Honestly, though, snow turning to slush during the game might be a lot of chaotic fun, I might root for that one, personally.
If you’re a goofy Husky fan who thinks Jacob Eason should be the starting quarterback next season, root for a Seahawk blowout that has the big tall fella come in during a garbage fourth quarter and for him to throw five touchdowns on five passes, all deep shots to DK that Russ can’t seem to hit anymore because of his “finger.”
If you are finding yourself angry every time Russ is inaccurate, make loud fart noises after every throw. I do. It’s fun.
If you want to see Seattle bring back Quandre Diggs (so do I), let’s root for him to have two interceptions and maybe they will trade Jamal Adams for a nose tackle with upside and a future seventh round pick, and keep 6 instead.
If you want General Manager John Schneider gone, this is a really easy one. You root for Seattle to get blown out at home by these terrible Lions and every single Seahawk player stinks it up bigly.
If you want John back, root for every Seahawk to play well.
If you enjoy comedy, root for Lions coach Dan Campbell to do or say something funny that the cameras pick up.
If you want Seattle to have a higher pick at the top of round two in the draft this Spring, root for Seattle to lose this game and the one against the Cardinals next week.
if you are a sentimentalist like me, and you would like to see all the big names back next year, root for Russ to have a great signature game, for Bobby to make big plays, and for Pete to have a fun time high fiving his players as the come off the field after doing good things to put Detroit away early. Who know what is going to happen in a couple weeks time, but maybe two decisive wins to finish the season affords Pete and Russ a path to discover that they are better off with each other here, and they just need some group therapy sessions led by Marshawn Lynch and Kam Chancellor to sort through their “philosophical differences.”
In the end, I don’t know how this game will go down. After the debacle against the Bears, I’ve given up trying to predict. As I said on the most recent Dorks On Sports podcast, I predict one team will score 23 and the other will score 20. Who knows which one does what or how much it even really matters.
I know for me, this is a game that I get to watch Russ and Bobby play as Seahawks and for Pete to coach them, and I’m going to savor it. Who knows who comes back next year. I just know that the run these guys have had with each other is the greatest run in Seattle team sports and one of the best runs in the NFL. That matters to me, and I’m there for them.
This is Part Two of a series that I am going that will make arguments in favor of key individuals in the Seattle Seahawks organization now that a losing season is upon us, and an off-season of some significant changes could be well in order.
In the first part of this series, I championed Pete Carroll, and why he should remain as the head coach of this team. if you haven’t had a chance to read it, you can by clicking here.
This one focuses in on Russell Wilson, who has been my guy for years, but I get the many beefs peeps have against him. I really do.
I know well what many are thinking with their criticisms. Russell Wilson hasn’t played that well this year and he makes $35 million annually to play professional quarterback at an elite level. I’m sure some of you are reading this write now and thinking to yourself that he hasn’t actually played well enough for about a season and a half now. I wouldn’t argue against that, either.
Many folks look at his third down stats over the years, and how spotty (at best) he’s been there. I think the fact that he doesn’t check down to the open receivers enough also probably bothers the masses just like it bothers me.
I’m sure there’s times when ya’ll just want to see him run for yardage instead of continuing to look down field while eating a sack. That last thing induces fits of supreme annoyance from me every single game, almost.
I bet many of you might also be reading all the headlines that the New York Giants might be willing to trade away their two first round picks that will be in the top ten of this years draft (and change), and you are convincing yourself more and more that Daniel Jones in Seahawk blue won’t look that bad next year as a cheap game manager. It’s a thought that crossed my mind a time or two.
Honestly, I get all this.
It’s a very tempting thought of trading Russ now, especially if the Giants become desperate enough to toss in.. oh, say.. Saquon Barkley, cornerback James Bradberry, and defensive tackle Leonard Williams just to out compete the Eagles and Saints and Broncos for RW3’s services, if there’s a bidding war. If that happens, I’d be beyond tempted to make that deal. Seattle has a lot of holes on their roster, and that haul would fill and upgrade a lot of those needs.
Here’s the thing that continues to make me push the pause button on all of this talk though. Suppose the Giants were desperate enough to make that offer? What does that say about Russell Wilson and what does that say about Daniel Jones?
I think the clearest answer to those questions is that the league views Russell Wilson, at age 33 and having an off year (probably largely due to injury), as being an elite quarterback capable of carrying a team on a championship run, if used correctly. This would all be confirmed if the Seahawks float him on the trade market after the Super Bowl, and there is a multi team bidding war that creates this type of offer as mentioned above.
So, if this then happens, wouldn’t a better idea be for Seattle to hang onto their star passer and just do whatever necessary to make him happy?
If people are making the argument that he is a poor fit for Seattle because Pete Carroll wants to be a run first team and play good defense, but then, in the same breath of a sentence, say he would work well in a Sean Payton or Andy Reid scheme somewhere else, well then, why not simply bring that scheme and coach up here to the PNW?
Why not lure Sean Payton to Seattle, or bring in Doug Peterson who is from the Andy Reid tree?
If you are so hung up on what Seattle could land with two top ten picks for Russ this Spring, why not just look more at what they could land in free agency with a more determined effort to finally spend extra on quality players instead of bargain shopping for former first round flame outs to see if there is still talent left to uncork cheaply?
Lets say Payton comes up here, and creates a scheme that he thinks will suit all of which Russ does well, and with what could be become a ton of cap space available, Payton brings into town his free agent pro bowl left tackle, Terron Armstead for the next four to five years. Additionally, maybe he even brings in center Ryan Jensen from the Bucs, and pries defensive tack Sebastian Joseph-Day away from the Rams, and edge rusher Dante Fowler comes in and pairs up with Darrell Taylor.
With a new offensive minded head coach committed to fully taking advantage all that Russ does well, and four very quick free agent signings, Seattle could finally get back to being a team that is built up in the trenches and would have in possession that one thing that most NFL clubs are annually looking for, a true franchise quarterback.
This is the place where I always circle back to whenever I play out the scenarios of whether, if push comes to shove, Jody Allen needs to choose between Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson due to whatever unresolved philosophical frictions between the two. As much as I love Pete Carroll (I do), if I have to choose between a 33 year old franchise quarterback, and a seventy year old head coach, I can see an extremely easy case to be made to choose the passer (even with his current flaws), and figure it out with him.
I look at it this way. It’s fun to fantasize about Pete Carroll working with Saquon Barkley and better built up offensive and defensive lines in Seattle with Daniel Jones playing game manager (or Jameis Winston if Seattle wants to bring him in, as well). I enjoy the powerful run game and play stout defense thing-y as much as anyone, and would enjoy seeing this team back into the playoffs playing that sort of clearly defined and dedicated way again. I think it’s good football, if you have the right pieces in place.
But if I have to watch Seattle continuing its annual early departure from the playoffs for the next four years under Pete, while Russell Wilson and the New York Giants are routinely playing in championship games, that is going to leave an incredibly poor taste in my mouth as a fan, and if Seattle doesn’t make the playoffs while Russ does, it will be considerably worse. Just saying.
This is the thought I have that stops me in my tracks of clamoring for a Russell Wilson trade just so we can all get back to better Pete Ball with a cheaper solution at quarterback. The idea that Russ will be playing in championships somewhere else, and we won’t be, and Pete will retire in a few short years, and Seattle will be left hanging.. looking for a quarterback, and a head coach, as well. Gross.
Yeah, that’s an awful thought, right there.
So, while it would be fun to see maybe a big time interior rusher in Seahawks blue, along with a Barkley type running the ball, it’s all not likely to matter much, if this team doesn’t have a legit franchise quarterback. Russell Wilson is that guy. That’s why the Chicago Bears offered three first round picks for him last Spring, and why we could see multiple teams going ever further with offers this Winter.
I see a lot of comments on Twitter about how Russ isn’t nearly as fast anymore, and once his legs go, he won’t be able to cut it. I think those are comments from folks working hard to build cases against him being in Seattle. Sure, he’s not nearly as fast as he was in 2012, but he’s still quick enough to slip by a rush (if he isn’t weirdly spinning himself into a sack), and if Tom Brady can figure a way to get quicker as he has aged (he has), I’m sure a workaholic like Russ will figure that way out for himself, as well (he most likely will).
In fact, I would place more of a bet on Russ continuing to have a long productive career than I would that his career falling apart quickly because his wheels come off. Call me naive, but I just don’t see that as a very likely thing.
I would bet he has about six to eight years left of top end play, and he just needs to pair with a head coach who will hammer the details more, push him harder than Pete Carroll maybe does, and will create a scheme that will lean the furthest into his strengths. In my opinion, Russ has never had that in Seattle, and I think it makes a ton of sense to try that here with him first before shipping him off just to get a punch of draft picks.
If Andy Reid was able to alter his traditional west coast offensive that he ran for years with Alex Smith and others to a more vertical spread attack that better suits the unique talents of Patrick Mahomes, then a good offensive mind should be able to muster up something that best suits Russ. My guess is that there will be teams this off-season targeting Russell Wilson with that sort of plan in mind.
So why not simply do that here in Seattle?
It’s a very fair question to ask, and it’s one that I would think ownership is more than likely considering these days. We will see soon enough where this all goes.
Before I end this argument for RW3, I would like to quickly address this CBS Sports report from Jason La Confora that appeared this Sunday. It basically states that Russell has no intention of signing a fourth contract with the Seahawks, even with a coaching change occurring.
My sense is that the information in this article was leaked to La Confora by Seattle’s front office simply because it mentions a clear divide between those in the organization who believe the team needs a major roster rebuild and see Russ as the biggest chip in landing the picks and players to do it, and Pete Carroll, who doesn’t want to trade Russ and be a part of any rebuild at age 70. Personally, I found this report pretty revealing in terms of the many divides within the club, and it’s very obvious that there are those in this clubhouse who want that division known to the public.
If all this is true that Russ has no intention on signing another deal, I can honestly see the logic on trading him if the right deal is offered. This, in my mind, is why you can move on from a premiere passing talent with the right moves that would follow.
However, it should also be noted that while Russ’s contract ends after the 2023 season, Seattle could elect to use the franchise tag on him two years in a row until it becomes too cost prohibitive to do if for a third and final year that the tag method is an available option. That would mean that Russ could easily kept here in Seattle for four more seasons, all the way to 2025, the same year Pete’s contract ends with the club.
If I had to bet exactly where Pete’s head is in all of this, I think he’s seeing an easy path where he can keep Russ in Seattle for as long as he’s intending to coach. ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler reported last week that, even though Russ and Pete have philosophical differences on how the offense should run, both men remain tight with each other, and are on good terms.
So with all the smoke coming out of New York about the Giants making a serious run at Russ, if Jody Allen isn’t going to make any coaching change, it’s not totally inconceivable that Pete could dig his heels in again, and the dynamic coach/quarterback duo return back for another run year with a bit more tweaking of the offense to appeal to the plucky passer.
If that happens, maybe it will be general manager John Schneider who will be looking for his exit. That will be my Part Three piece in this series.
Well, I think we can say it now, if you are one of the few remaining that’s been holding out any last seeds of doubt. These 2021 Seattle Seahawks are a bad football team.
Part of it is injuries. Part of it is talent and coaching. A lot of it is in the details and the lack thereof. I think a lot of it is also that their very best players aren’t playing their best ball, to be honest.
Russ isn’t playing anywhere near at his best, and it’s probably mostly due to his injured finger, but I also think it’s fair to question whether Shane Waldron’s scheme is a good match for him. If I had to put my finger on the Russ situation (pun intended), I honesty suspect he misses (and needs) Brian Schottenheimer, of all people.
Laugh about that if you will, but I think Schotty was a strong presence for Russ who managed to clean up a lot of his mechanical flaws and had him playing reasonably pretty well in his scheme, even if it was a limited one. I suspect Russ needs this sort of presence on the sidelines to be better honed in.
I think it’s very fair to say that neither Duane Brown or Bobby Wagner have played well enough either, if we are to be equally critical. For most of the year, it’s looked like Father Time has been catching up to Brown, and everyone loves to talk about how many tackles Wagner makes, but I see very few of them happening near or at or behind the line of scrimmage. The Seahawks pay both of these men a lot of dollars to be high impact players and they haven’t been nearly enough.
Nor has Jason Meyers but I hate blaming kickers for losses because that is usually one step away from blaming refs. If your offense is good enough, a kicker is a total after thought. Seattle’s offense isn’t good enough and it’s that simple.
Probably worst of all for me is how bad Jamal Adams had played up to his season ending injury. Pro Football Focus has him graded as one of the absolute worst safeties in all of football, and I personally wonder if Seattle needs to shift him to weak side linebacker to get the most out of him next year, if he is still a member of their roster.
But lets get back to this loss against Super Bowl MVP Nick Foles, and the feisty Bears. Holy bear crap, Batman.
Bad team? Yeah, I think so, but I don’t know if they are any worse than Seattle right now, and maybe they are better.
Losing the way Seattle did by blowing a lead in the fourth quarter is exactly what a bad team does. This game was similar in many ways to the early season home loss against the Tennessee Titans, but many forgave the Seahawks then because the Titans were thought to be a good team (they are). Losing to a bad Chicago Bears team the same way puts the nail in the coffin for what the Seahawks have become.
They’re truly bad, and in this game against the bad offense of the Bears, their defense, who were supposed to now be the strength of this team, played terribly when it mattered most in the final minutes of play, and honestly, they kinda stunk throughout, especially on third downs.
That’s really, really, really truly bad.
It’s so bad that I’m well beyond the point of being upset as a diehard Twelve any longer. In a weird way, I’m almost glad that they dropped this game to the Nick Foles led Chicago Bears.
The reason that I’m near glad they lost this is that I think it’s okay to own the fact of how miserable the Seahawks have become now. That’s not to say that they don’t have good players, they do, but so do most bad franchises. In 1992, the Seahawks had the best defense in the league, and they had the best defensive player in the league with Cortez Kennedy, but they stunk their way to a miserable 2-14 record beacuse they had no quarterback.
Thus far, with Russell Wilson, these 2021 have only won three more games than that historically bad 1992 club. That’s really truly bad.
Changes clearly need to happen for this club to get better, and the first start of ushering change in is acknowledging that they are a stinking bad club. So, I’m all about embracing that.
They stink. If you pooped yourself like they just did, you would stink, too.
Who knows the extent to how much change will happen, or how much is needed. Despite all that has happened this year, I still believe Pete Carroll is a good coach, and Russell Wilson is a good quarterback.
I think it’s also entirely possible that there needs to be a break between the two, and however which way it goes is not important to me, personally. Frankly, I don’t even care if neither are back next year, if the right moves are made.
What is important to me is that team owner Jody Allen to step up and make the right call, whatever it is. If the coach needs to go, make sure it is for a better one. If the quarterback needs to go, make sure that there is a great plan on how to move forward to build this team back up again in all the areas of need for the next passer, and see that plan through.
What I think will be very difficult for many Seattle Seahawk fans next year is for the status quo to remain intact, and we have to endure another year of an unhappy quarterback using his agent to leak his unhappiness to Colin Cowherd and Mike Florio on a weekly basis while the Seahawks front office continues to bargain shop in free agency to try to fix holes on the offensive and defensive lines again, and Pete Carroll rolls back with Ken Norton Junior as his defensive mastermind again, and then bumbles his way around press conferences after losses, struggling to offer any sound answers as to why the same problems occur over and over again.
If this all happens, Jody Allen is likely to loose fans in large numbers with a market that now has the NHL to be excited about, and a baseball team that could finally see the post season in 2022. It’s not unimaginable to say that a return of the status quo could send the Seahawks firmly in third place in terms of popularity in Seattle next year, and maybe even fourth place with the WNBA Storm.
So, Jody has work to do, and I think many of us are feeling it more and more. I know I am.
I guess what I’m saying to you as a Seahawks fan is to hang in there. Ultimately, I think Jody Allen will deliver. She is most likely looking at this like many of us are, and I think, in the spirit of her brother Paul, she will act decisively in some way soon enough. I think she knows that is exactly how Paul would want her to govern, and she will be more than ready for it.
So, hang tight. We will see how it all shakes out soon enough.
It’s a bummer to watch the Seahawks lose like this, but as long as ownership isn’t complacent, it’ll be okay. The NFL is a cyclical thing and our team is on the down turn, but it doesn’t have to last long.
They just need a good plan and I think that’s a reasonable thing to ask for in the New Year. Let’s make it so.
Careful what you ask for if you want Russell Wilson traded
Dear Seattle Seahawk Fan,
Weird time we’re in with Seattle officially earning a losing season for the first time in the Russell Wilson era. Strange days, indeed.
This was not the scenario I was envisioning for these Seahawks after their decisive on the road victory over the Colts when the 2021 NFL season kicked off. Far from it, actually.
But as we all know, shit happened, and perhaps nothing more shittier happened than the officiating in that game Tuesday night against the LA Rams, and if you are like me, you’re likely still angered by that shit show staring the zebras. What a turd sandwich to have to bite on and taste as a Seahawk fan.
I honestly had no expectation that Seattle was going to win that game heading in, either. Sean McVay has always had a sound answer for beating Pete Carroll’s defense, and Aaron Donald is absolutely Russell Wilson’s kryptonite, and Russ wasn’t going to have Tyler Lockett, who is clearly his security blanket these days in Shane Waldron’s offense. I saw little scenarios available for Seattle to pull off that win.
So, when they had their chances to pull off the upset in the fourth quarter, even with Russ having his usual piss poor outing against these Rams, and the flipping refs legitimately took those chances away, I got a bit testy, and I had a crap night trying to sleep. I found it so upsetting that I am allowing it to spill into this preview of the match against the Bears.
Honestly, I’m still pissed. With so much that has been built up for this season for Seattle with Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll and whether or not they can continue to co-exist beyond 2021, I personally would have loved to have seen them finish out the year on a win streak that, even if it ultimately didn’t lead to a playoff appearance, it would give the sense that maybe there exists the wee possibility that the band could stay together in 2022, and beyond.
Now it feels more certain than ever that it won’t likely happen, and who even knows what will come out of it. Seahawks Twitter right now seems increasingly favoring a Russell Wilson trade to the Giants for their two first round picks and change. I maintain, that even though he has struggled with his consistency as a passer going back to the second half of last year, if teams are willing to enter into a bidding war for his services by offering Seattle a fortunate of first round picks and players, that, in and of itself, tells me Seattle still has a huge advantage in this league of having a top end passer, and that they should hang onto him, and just make him happy. If I were to bet what is going through Jody Allen’s mind, and where she’s leaning in all of this, that’s where I would place my money, but we will all see soon enough.
So, yeah, enough of that. Bring on the Bears!
They suck. They don’t have a quarterback and their roster is old. That’s why they were desperate last year to trade for Russ and they offered Seattle three first round picks and a third and supposedly Khalil Mack and another starter of Seattle’s choice. When Seattle turned that offer down, that’s why they desperately moved up in the draft to take Justin Fields, who is a raw rookie passer that has only thrown 7 touchdowns this year to his 10 interceptions. Those are some dead on Rick Meyer passing numbers right there for you, and if you are too young to know that name, I invite you to look it up.
In fact, if you are a Twelve that favors Seattle hanging onto Pete Carroll and trading Russell Wilson to the Giants for their picks, and then drafting a quarterback to play on a cheap rookie deal, then I invite you to watch these Bears closely because that is likely what Seattle will be next year in a tough division that features the Rams, 49ers, and Cardinals. Seattle has a lot of age on it’s roster, and not enough good young talent behind it. That’s a bad recipe for throwing in a rookie passer, and expecting him to succeed anytime soon, if at all.
The Bears are a bad red zone team on offense and defense. They don’t score a lot of points down there, and they have trouble stopping others from scoring. They are a bad passing team (see rookie quarterback). They run the ball okay, but they are terrible at stopping the run.
This should be a good match for Seattle to exercise the demons of the Rams game out of their bodies and have a day on a snowy Boxing Day. Expect Rashaad Penny and Deejay Dallas to have a game running the ball. Expect Russell Wilson to have a good bounce back game even with a gimpy ankle. Expect the Seattle defense to continue to play pretty good football.
I see Seattle winning this one pretty easily with a final score being something like 24-13, and the game won’t ever feel as close as the final score will indicate.
There’s a lot on the line still for Seahawk players to play for. There are a lot of veteran starters set to be free agents after the season, and they want to show on tape they deserve a big pay day. Russ wants to show the league he is still elite. Carroll wants to prove that he can still coach his ass off.
These Seattle Seahawks are going to show a lot of fight through these next three games, and it starts on Sunday. So, there we have it.
Happy Holidays, and go Hawks!
PS: If you are still reeling over the refs in that Rams game on Tuesday, have I got the Dorks On Sports Episode for you to enjoy in the link below. We bravely go NFL deep state. Go Hawks!
Now that the league has officially robbed the Seattle Seahawks of a winning season (thanks to one of the worst officiated games that I can ever remember seeing against the mother flipping Rams), I think it is fair to now acknowledge the very real possibility that major changes could be around the corner for this team in a short month or two. This is part one of a series that I am going to put together that will make arguments for the major power players within the organization.
Instead of focusing on all the negatives the surround Pete Carroll, John Schneider, and Russell Wilson, I want to use my law school drop out skills to make positive cases for each member of this power trio.
I personally think it is unlikely all three will be back in 2022, especially considering the news that broke a couple weeks ago that Jody Allen isn’t happy with how things have been shaking out with this team. Instead of trashing each of them, however, I want to celebrate each of them a bit for what they have brought and what they mean to this franchise.
Here is my argument for Pete Carroll.
I have heard many of the complaints about Pete. He’s old, and his offensive approach doesn’t cut it in the modern day analytic approach to offensive football. His defense hasn’t been nearly good enough for about five years now. He meddles too much in the front office dealings, and with the offensive play calling. His miss manages games galore.
Maybe the greatest argument against him is that, at age 70, can he be trusted to see through a major rebuild path if he is allowed to trade away Russell Wilson? That’s a very fair question to ask.
I think all these criticisms about him are completely fair, actually.
I wish he would lean more into his quarterback on offense, and embrace going in a tempo that best allows the quarterback to find his grooves as a plucky passer. I think a more offensive minded head coach would do this, and it feels too logical to not make it a thing.
I do think that he meddles in the front office too much, and I highly doubt that the decision to trade two first round picks and a third rounder to the Jets for Jamal Adams was John Schneider’s idea. I do think he gets in the way of his offensive coordinators.
I don’t think he has adapted his defense enough in recent years. I think the league has figured it out and he just doesn’t have the horses he used to have to have for it be reliable enough game in and game out anymore.
And finally, at age 70, I do have my doubts whether he can see forth a major rebuild that will get this team back to championship contention within a four year span without one of the best quarterbacks in the game (even if said QB isn’t playing like one enough these days).
That all said, I think there are a few things that work in the favor of Carroll that are undeniably positive for this club. I think moving away from Carroll to build better around Russ could be a careful what you ask for thing, and if they do that, they better hit it out of the park with the next head coach.
I think Pete Carroll is probably the single best culture builder in professional football, and his ability to have a roster continue to play hard under difficult circumstances is a very rare thing. This is a huge benefit for the Seahawks.
This has been a tough year for the club, no question. The off-season trade speculation with Russ, disappointing start to the season with the defense in a mess, the Russell Wilson finger injury on his throwing hand, and not playing well enough when he came back from it early. There’s a lot of icky stuff there.
One thing that has not been icky to watch is how hard this team continued to fight through it all. They fought tough in Pittsburgh with Geno Smith having to step in at quarterback in a hostile environment, and they fought very tough in Green Bay when Russ came back too early from injury and played poorly. This team held an explosive Rams offense to ten points into the fourth quarter on Tuesday night until the refs took the game over in favor of LA.
Pete Carroll has a way about him of getting guys to fight hard for him. His players will not quit on him. That’s a check that you can safely take to any bank and cash.
I honestly think that if this was a better roster, particularly on the offensive and defensive lines, Seattle would have won a bit more of these games, and might be at a 7-7 or 8-6 record right now instead of 5-9. But unfortunately, Seattle has chosen to go cheap on both lines by putting big time money into their quarterback, middle linebacker, and strong safety positions (all of which who haven’t been playing well enough to perhaps justify their salaries).
If Pete were to stay, and Russ were to demand a trade to say the New York Giants (as it seems to be the hot speculation of the day), and Seattle were to oblige him, and the Giants would send their two top ten picks along with Daniel Jones, and maybe their first round pick in 2023, Seattle could use those two early picks on blue chip players to go on their offensive and defensive lines, and play on cheap rookie contracts. They would also free up cap space to be a bit more spendy in free agency than in years past. Maybe they make a splashy move on a talented young interior pass rusher and bring in a pro bowl center, and a quality veteran corner.
I’m personally not a Daniel Jones believer, and if Seattle were to acquire him, I would want them to add to the competition by maybe bringing in a Jamies Winston or Marcus Mariota, but for all the talk that Pete Carroll’s preferred way of running the ball on offense is outdated, the playoff contending team of the 49ers, the Titans, the Ravens, the Colts, and Eagles all beg to differ with that. The proof is in the pudding that Pete Ball will always be around in some form or fashion, and teams will win playing that style.
For all the analytic advancements with the game, football will always been football. If you can run the ball well, you can control clock, and if you can stop the run, and pass rush, you can get the ball back. Pete Carroll’s mantra is that “it is all about the ball” and those other teams that I just mentioned are playing Pete Ball right now pretty well.
So maybe Jones (or Jameis) would be nothing more than a game manager for Seattle by dumping off the ball to Travis Homer on third and short for a first down, and handing off to Chris Carson on the next play, but maybe that’s all Seattle needs to be better on third downs with a built back better offensive line, and a defensive line that can consistently find pressure on the opposing quarterback.
For all the talk about what Tom Brady has meant down in Tampa, the Bucs won their Super Bowl against the Chiefs by playing Pete Carroll football in that game. They ran at will, played great defense, and Brady managed that game.
In order to play this style of ball, you need a good offensive line, a good defensive line, and a quarterback willing and capable to game manage for you. It is not beyond reason to think that these ingredients could be found with high draft capital and a bit more aggressive free agent spending.
Would it be enough to get Seattle back into a championship game?
Maybe, but they would have to hit it out of the park in the draft, and free agency.
Tennessee was a hot playoff team recently playing this way, and San Francisco made the Super Bowl doing it a couple years ago. I would venture to say neither team has greatness at their quarterback position.
I would also add this in my closing argument for Pete Carroll. If Jody Allen can convince Pete to give up his Vice President title to general manager John Schneider and therefor give Schneider true autonomy to construct this roster, I would have much greater confidence in Pete Carroll leading this team beyond the Russell Wilson era.
My greatest concern with Pete is that he has too much of an impulse to meddle with the draft, free agency, and trades. As I stated above, I don’t think it was Schneider who was willing to deal all that draft capital on Jamal Adams. I also suspect that if Schneider had it his way in the 2018 draft, he wouldn’t have taken a running back in round one who didn’t play ball in a major college conference. I also seriously doubt Schneider had a high enough draft grade on LJ Collier to take in in round one in 2019.
All of my intuitions say that Carroll’s VP status needs to change if he is to stay on board. But if he is being paid the same, is it that rally too much for Jody Allen to request that he gives it up?
I don’t think it is, and I think freeing him of that status frees him up to better coach up this team through 2025.
If the power structure changes from Pete to John, I could better handle this team trading Russell Wilson for a boat load of picks. John Schneider has a really good eye for quarterbacks, and if it takes a few years of Daniel Jones or someone else at quarterback before the next franchise passer arrives, I could handle it if this team is playing pretty good Pete Ball.
This is my argument for Pete, anyways.
There is a lot that can be said about him, and I agree with much of the criticism that surrounds him, but I also think that, at the end of the day, he’s a good coach, and I think he should be acknowledged as such, even with all the critics.
And he is a superb culture builder. That can never be questioned, and it matters in professional team sports were egos can constantly go awry. Trust me on that one.
Please pull down your pants, and undies, stick out your thumbs, sit on them, and spin. You suck, and I want you to sit with your thumbs up your ass pipes for the rest of the league year.
Look, there are things that the Seattle Seahawks did in this game to make it harder for them to win by chasing deep passes on third and manageable, not being able to properly cover the middle of the field, and calling a gutless run play on third and six with the game on the line, but make no mistake about it, you had your officials gift this win to the Los Angeles Rams, and it was obvious to all the eyes that watched.
There was a roughing the passer play on Greg Gaines that was a blatant no call. There was that stupid pass interference call against Bless Austin where he didn’t interfere, and when there was an actual PI happening on Deejay Dallas, your refs didn’t make that very obvious call when the game was on the line for Seattle.
I have one question for you.
What the actual fuck?
If you are going to stick your hands down our pants in your attempt to get the Rams into that Super Bowl in Los Angeles in a month and a half, at least give us free red zone passes for the rest of the year, or buy us some drinks first. That would be the more kindly thing to do.
And look, it’s not like I am a Seahawks fan who was expecting them to make a miracle run to save their season and finish 9-8. In fact, I wasn’t even expecting them to win this game.
What I do expect is that when I watch my team play, I don’t see such brazen lopsided officiating happening against them. I expect to see a fairly called game. It’s what any reasonable fan should expect.
Why this didn’t happen in this game, we cannot one hundred percent know the answer to, but we can easily guess what it could be. Mine is that you want to see the Rams in the Super Bowl.
You have been hyping up that team ever since the Matthew Stafford trade. The Super Bowl is in LA. Having a loss against the lowly Seahawks who might be staring at a rebuild next year would hurt their chances. Thus we, as Seahawk fans, had to sit through and watch your greedy little agenda unfold.
You suck.
I hope this little darling of a team that you have in La La Land loses badly in the playoffs because of all this. I hope Stafford throws three picks to a seventh seeded team, and they get bounced early.
I didn’t even care that much if my Seahawks had won this game. I think they need to go into next off-season doing a major retooling around Russell Wilson, and that is my sole priority for this club. They could win out, and I would feel the same.
But I just want you to know how much you suck right now as a league. You can’t handle Covid right, your brand sucks with the lack of consistent officiating, and your commissioner is going everything in his power to protect that horrible human being who owns the Washington Football Team with a congressional investigation breathing down is corrupt little neck.
Your are what your image says you are. You are fucking terrible.
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